RK9
Captured by Mazarin
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Post by RK9 on Nov 12, 2008 23:03:14 GMT -5
I remember hating this episode. I didn't like d'Art in the first episode, and I hated him as Little Worm - I remember thinking that the name fit. Of course, he grew on me, later in the series I grew to like his character more, but this episode I didn't like him. This would be the first official episode I ever watched. I loved Ramon and Siroc and the val-de-bleu (at least, that's how Malaysian subtitles spelled it) and the Captain being afraid of water... and Louis fishing and having someone with that duck ornament on his head going underwater to attach a fish to the end for him... loved it when they shot the duck off and the guy reappeared with a bandage on his head... Hated Mazarin, but then again, that's a good thing since he'd the villain here. We're supposed to hate him, cause when we hate the villain, it means we love the portrayal of them... so we gotta hate them to love 'em, haha.  And I got through my first paper. Just seven more to go. |
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Post by jeantre16 on Nov 14, 2008 17:39:35 GMT -5
Good words on the villain thing.
Cograts on finishing your first paper, RK9!! Thanks for stopping in here to share your words on Rub-a-dub Sub.
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Post by sue on Nov 18, 2008 18:46:35 GMT -5
One more comment on the hot springs scene...There ARE no hot springs within riding distance from the walled city of Paris. I think the closest ones are about an hour or so away in a car, so, not very likely they could have just bopped over to them on horseback.
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Post by jeantre16 on Nov 19, 2008 0:15:28 GMT -5
lol But, Sue, d'Artagnan said that very few know about it, right? ^_~
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Post by sue on Nov 19, 2008 0:49:31 GMT -5
Still, a full day's ride away...and anything close in...would be known by now, don't you think? No secret places left on Earth.
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Post by jeantre16 on Nov 19, 2008 1:31:10 GMT -5
One thing I've learned: Local people never tell their secrets.
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Post by sue on Nov 19, 2008 2:57:05 GMT -5
lol
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RK9
Captured by Mazarin
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Post by RK9 on Nov 19, 2008 12:02:45 GMT -5
Maybe the hot springs got filled in somewhere in between the time it existed in the show and our current time? It used to be there, but now in modern Paris it ain't there anymore?  |
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Post by sue on Nov 19, 2008 12:14:59 GMT -5
Oh, I think you're really reaching, there!
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Post by Jaded on Jul 20, 2011 17:46:27 GMT -5
I am way late to this discussion, but I just wanted to say that siroc has very neatly articulated nearly every problem I have with the episode. But aside from the fact that it's stupid, it just feels really out of place with the rest of the season, like they were at first planning to play up the cheese (no pun intended) and very abruptly decided, after making this episode, that it was a bad idea and they should go more serious instead.
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Post by jeantre16 on Jul 21, 2011 13:18:30 GMT -5
Jaded, you're never too late here. This IS an ongoing conversation.  I agree with the silliness. I recall seeing the first ep and thinking, "Um, that was cheesy." I never really thought about the fact that the show got more serious as it continued to air, but I can see that now that you've pointed it out. I guess I just thought the show was maturing. |
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Post by Jaded on Jul 21, 2011 16:01:21 GMT -5
I think the show was definitely maturing -- it seems to be a general rule that shows get darker and place more importance on continuity as they go on, and I definitely think that's what "Secrets" implied was going to happen in the second season, if it existed.
But it also feels to me like there's a sharp divide between "Rub-a-Dub Sub" and "Enchanted" in the tone of the series. "Wanted" is a mix of drama and slapstick ridiculousness, "Rub-a-Dub Sub" is just slapstick ridiculousness, but "Enchanted" solidifies the show as mostly serious with a bit of comic relief in Louis; and even Louis, over the next few episodes, stops being simply over-the-top silly all the time, which felt kind of forced, to the humor in his actions being that he's mostly trying to do the right thing but is still kind of useless.
Because of how quickly the change started, to me it feels like "Rub-a-Dub Sub" was closer to the original vision of the show, and then someone realized they could do better and purposely changed directions, rather than just the natural maturing of the show.
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Post by sue on Jul 21, 2011 18:02:45 GMT -5
I think the writers were not tremendously mainstream.
This was the first episode that I ever saw, and I was struck by the ridiculousness of the submarine in 1652.
Upon watching it several times, I HATE the 'cover disguises', the "deaf man" begging, and the whole thing, really, smacks of terrible writing. The two musketeers pretending to be crooks, the terrible dialog, yet, you see things that come up in later episodes, and things that were based on what we saw, here.
Basically, I look at it and wonder why, if not for my then small son, who loved the swordfighting, I even decided to watch a second episode...but then...I did. And, despite errors in every episode, and suspension of reality in every episode...I liked it.
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