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Post by Gabrielle on Sept 24, 2006 21:46:46 GMT -5
You can talk about the third episode Enchanted here.
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Post by potc166 on Jul 3, 2007 20:44:41 GMT -5
the entraches is crazy
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Post by parazesis on Jul 5, 2007 23:59:51 GMT -5
danged right she is she is a toral lunitic and trys to bring Ramon down with her *pouts* But you do have to admet that Memou is awsome ; P
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Post by parazesis on Jul 6, 2007 0:00:52 GMT -5
sorry Total lunitic Arrg I cant spell :' (
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Post by potc166 on Jul 6, 2007 11:32:09 GMT -5
join the club..I am card carrying memeber of the not very good spelling club... ;D
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Post by vigilanti on Jul 23, 2007 20:54:57 GMT -5
this was the first episode i ever saw. I had a soft spot for musketeers for years so i wanted to catch it, then the creepyness apealed to me making it unique from other versions i'd seen so i was hooked.
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Post by potc166 on Jul 23, 2007 23:07:59 GMT -5
indded yong blades is creepy and unigue..but still awasome non the less..
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Post by Jaded on Jul 28, 2007 19:01:29 GMT -5
I liked the creepiness of this ep. It was especially good after the first two because it was the turning point of the series, I think. The first two episodes were mostly slapstick with a few serious moments, but from "Enchanted" on it was serious with a bit of humor mixed in. I think it works better that way.
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Post by potc166 on Jul 31, 2007 12:41:12 GMT -5
agreed
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Post by ladydartagnan on Dec 13, 2007 7:52:24 GMT -5
Hm, got my curiosity on this episode... And Jaded, on an off-note, I really gotta ask, where did you get your icon pic? That is absolutely priceless, I love it. Poor Siroc, why can I picture the poor guy getting either suckered into it or losing a bet? Although the watermelon: $5 is a bit randomly thrown in... ^^;; heh, okay, I'll stop talking now.
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Post by jeantre16 on Dec 13, 2007 8:32:38 GMT -5
Tee hee, that picture of Siroc would be from the Invincible Sword episode.
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Post by ladydartagnan on Dec 13, 2007 15:49:30 GMT -5
Hm, I gotta see that then. Poor Siroc. Are any of the episodes on Youtube?
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Post by thedaringhattrick on Nov 21, 2008 8:03:15 GMT -5
This episode was the first one that was well put together where the series was concerned. We got to learn more about Ramon. For anyone who hasn't seen the extended scenes, its from this episode that we learn that he was part of the Spanish nobility, but choked on their hypocriticism... and left. Clearly, there's something more to that and we don't get the full story--this is just mentioned in passing when he's speaking to Leana; its the first time we see more depth in a character besides Jacqueline.
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Post by sue on Nov 21, 2008 10:33:32 GMT -5
Personally, this is about my least favorite episode, though there are some good points, such as the part where D'Artagnan starts to say that parents will pay ransom for a son, then stops to check Jacques' reaction before going on. In spite of the fact that it's one of the few times we actually see anything serious about Ramón, something about Leanna disturbs me...I can't quite put my finger on it, but I don't really buy her as a romantic character. I do find it interesting that Ramón thinks that the Spanish nobility is hypocritical, but he doesn't see the same in the French system! The kids are cute, but the whole thing about their mother "needing a break", well, no Renaissance woman would have ever said such a thing. In fact, no woman my mother's age would ever have admitted to needing a break from her kids...that's why so many women had nervous breakdowns in the '60s, but that's a different topic I like the sword fight and the bit where D'Artagnan is the last one to come out of the trance. For some reason (partly having to do with the changing schedules on PAX) I had a hard time watching this one a first time...I seemed to keep catching the last line ("Us girls have to stick together") without getting any of the rest of it...Have to admit, that was quite the teaser.
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Post by thedaringhattrick on Nov 21, 2008 18:46:13 GMT -5
No, Leana is not a very convincing romantic, but I think that's the point. I find it interesting that she identifies as a poet, and yet has nothing of the sentimental spirit that comes across in Ramon's character. The way she delivers the lines 'I really did love you' sound so flat and unconvincing... and hammer home the irony that this self proclaimed artist knows nothing about what would traditionally inspire one.
The entire episode is concerned with her ties to Mazarin and her appetite for power. She has a conversation with the Cardinal in which she demands a portion of Europe. That's very ambitious for a woman in her time.
In the same vein, I also find it intriguing that she's the only woman who we see from the Order. She had to have some serious grit and a thick skin to have been able to make it as far as she did in an otherwise all male secret society headed by a church patriarch. No wonder this woman doesn't understand the concept of love. Life must have been an uphill battle, where she was taught not to take any prisoners.
And where her poetry is concerned, I think she saw it as more of a means to an end. I mean, if you look at the fact that she had to enslave the male characters with her poetry-based powers, there's a sadness to the concept. That she couldn't trust her words alone to inspire authentic devotion and instead depended on will-consuming magic to inspire followers. Although outwardly strong, emotionally, she was about just as fragile as that shell she carried.
Then again, maybe I'm reading into much to her character now that I'm writing "Revelations;" am I the only one who actually finds her character concept potentially complex?
On the note of Ramon leaving court, it wasn't really specified what hypocristism they were referring to. Remember, this time in Spain, the Inquisition was still alive and kicking--I wonder if that had anything to do with our Rhapsodist's decision to leave.
Alas, we can only speculate.
Like I said, there was a lot of 'character seeds' planted in this particular episode that really got me into thinking about writing a more serious fanfiction about the series. Despite this being a Ramon-centric episode, I derived a lot of enjoyment from the Siroc and Andre scenes. The science vs magic, the boy's curiousness mirroring the inventor's, the almost 'CSI' take on trying to locate the lost children... Again, subtle, but I think we got a better grasp on Siroc's character. In Rub a Dub Sub and in Wanted, he just sort of.. invents things. Here, he's still inventing but there's more emotional make up that bubbling to the surface.
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